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Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Notice the ending statement of this passage, "unto them which are exercised thereby". Previously in Hebrews 12:6-8, it was revealed that God only chastises those who are His adopted children. Now, notice that not all His children are excercised by His chastening, not all are affected and learn to be obedient. Some will be afflicted and live in calamity thier entire lives on earth. Even more sadly, only a few are able to see the affliction and calamity that so many live in, because they see themsleves as being righteous, and have no need for a physician to heal them.
Hebrews 12:6-8 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Those whom the Lord loves dearly, those who he finds pleasing, he trains, molding them into the image of Christ. And he scourges, metaphorically whips or lashes, every child that he adopts. The first word translated as “chasteneth” is the Greek word “paideuo”, having a range of severity of the punishment that is carried out. The second word translated “scourgeth” is more precise and is used elsewhere to describe the beatings that both Christ and the Apostles suffered. This type of punishment is described often in the Old Testament, when God brought affliction and calamity upon the children of Israel, for their disobedience and rebellion against Him. If a person is experiencing chastening of any type, then he can rest assured God is dealing with him as one of His children. All of Gods children experience chastening in one form or another.
Notice that God does not chasten all of mankind. There will always be those who are bastards, or rather, those who are not legitimate children or those without a father. When a person is washed by the washing of regeneration, they are adopted as children of God. No one can be regenerate, and not be a child of God. Considering other related passages, it seems best that this is describing them as being illegitimate, meaning they do not conform to a particular standard, are not of a particular type. Given these three meanings we arrive at the conclusion that they are not of the adopted type.
Now, having defined those who are bastards, let’s take a closer look at those who are children. In these passages from Hebrews, we have determined two different types of punishment. Every child is scourged at some point, this does not necessarily mean all the time. However, all are partakers of some form of chastening, whether it be scourging or chastening. Whether it be afflication and calamity or punishment for training and conforming. I have mentioned often in other studies of the two types of children, the obedient and disobedient, and again this passage suggests two deferring regenerate types. Those whom the Lord loves dearly, those who he finds to be pleasing, are the obedeint who are living righteously. Those who are scourged are those who are disobedient, still living in sin, and in conformance to the world.
Notice that God does not chasten all of mankind. There will always be those who are bastards, or rather, those who are not legitimate children or those without a father. When a person is washed by the washing of regeneration, they are adopted as children of God. No one can be regenerate, and not be a child of God. Considering other related passages, it seems best that this is describing them as being illegitimate, meaning they do not conform to a particular standard, are not of a particular type. Given these three meanings we arrive at the conclusion that they are not of the adopted type.
Now, having defined those who are bastards, let’s take a closer look at those who are children. In these passages from Hebrews, we have determined two different types of punishment. Every child is scourged at some point, this does not necessarily mean all the time. However, all are partakers of some form of chastening, whether it be scourging or chastening. Whether it be afflication and calamity or punishment for training and conforming. I have mentioned often in other studies of the two types of children, the obedient and disobedient, and again this passage suggests two deferring regenerate types. Those whom the Lord loves dearly, those who he finds to be pleasing, are the obedeint who are living righteously. Those who are scourged are those who are disobedient, still living in sin, and in conformance to the world.
Matthew 3:12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
This passage refers to a winnowing fan, shovel, or fork and a threshing floor. It does not matter which type of winnowing tool is used, or which method of threshing is employed, because they are all used to accomplish the same task. When harvest time has come, the wheat is harvested and removed from the field. It is gathered together into one place to be threshed.
In this parable, we are given one particular type of plant, from which two different products are produced. Take note of this very important understanding and the fact that both grain and chaff are derived from the same stalk of wheat. These stalks of wheat are gathered together and threshed. Threshing is a process of beating or crushing. There are several methods that can be employed to accomplish this task, including the use of animals to trample the stalks. The purpose of threshing is to separate, or free, the grain from its covering.
The chaff is made up of the empty seed coverings and broken bits of straw that accumulate during the threshing process. As noted above, both the grain and the chaff are derived from the same stalk of wheat. Once the stalks have been properly threshed, the process of winnowing begins. First, the large stalks which remain are removed. At this point only the grain and chaff remain.Winnowing is the process of lifting that which remains into the air and allowing the heavier grain to drop to the ground while the air carries the lighter chaff away. Eventually this process separates the chaff from the grain.
The grain is then placed into a garner for safe keeping and the chaff disposed of. One must keep in mind that we are dealing strictly with one type of plant, commonly wheat, and that both the grain and the chaff are parts of the same plant. Both are derived from the same kernel of grain, the chaff which is the seed covering, and the grain which is the meat or fruit, hidden within, or incapsulated by the chaff. The regenerate child of God will produce either grain and/or chaff. The chaff must be loosed so that the fruit within can be released.
His winnowing shovel is ready, He will cleanse thoroughly His floor where He has collected His wheat for threshing. He will gather the grain thereof for safe keeping, but will consume with fire the chaff thereof with inextinguishable fire.
The above is my personal translation of this passage, without adding to or taking away from. It allows for better understanding of what is said. Notice that “He will cleanse thoroughly His floor”. The wheat is gathered on the floor. It is not just the chaff that He will clean from the floor, but everything. There will be nothing left on the floor when He is done. The wheat has been collected for threshing, to seperate the grain from the chaff. The wheat are His children, and the threshing of the wheat is the chastening of His children.
Related passages:
Matthew 3:10-11
John 15:6
1 Corinthians 3:13 & 15
Hebrews 12:29
1 Peter 1:7
In this parable, we are given one particular type of plant, from which two different products are produced. Take note of this very important understanding and the fact that both grain and chaff are derived from the same stalk of wheat. These stalks of wheat are gathered together and threshed. Threshing is a process of beating or crushing. There are several methods that can be employed to accomplish this task, including the use of animals to trample the stalks. The purpose of threshing is to separate, or free, the grain from its covering.
The chaff is made up of the empty seed coverings and broken bits of straw that accumulate during the threshing process. As noted above, both the grain and the chaff are derived from the same stalk of wheat. Once the stalks have been properly threshed, the process of winnowing begins. First, the large stalks which remain are removed. At this point only the grain and chaff remain.Winnowing is the process of lifting that which remains into the air and allowing the heavier grain to drop to the ground while the air carries the lighter chaff away. Eventually this process separates the chaff from the grain.
The grain is then placed into a garner for safe keeping and the chaff disposed of. One must keep in mind that we are dealing strictly with one type of plant, commonly wheat, and that both the grain and the chaff are parts of the same plant. Both are derived from the same kernel of grain, the chaff which is the seed covering, and the grain which is the meat or fruit, hidden within, or incapsulated by the chaff. The regenerate child of God will produce either grain and/or chaff. The chaff must be loosed so that the fruit within can be released.
His winnowing shovel is ready, He will cleanse thoroughly His floor where He has collected His wheat for threshing. He will gather the grain thereof for safe keeping, but will consume with fire the chaff thereof with inextinguishable fire.
The above is my personal translation of this passage, without adding to or taking away from. It allows for better understanding of what is said. Notice that “He will cleanse thoroughly His floor”. The wheat is gathered on the floor. It is not just the chaff that He will clean from the floor, but everything. There will be nothing left on the floor when He is done. The wheat has been collected for threshing, to seperate the grain from the chaff. The wheat are His children, and the threshing of the wheat is the chastening of His children.
Related passages:
Matthew 3:10-11
John 15:6
1 Corinthians 3:13 & 15
Hebrews 12:29
1 Peter 1:7
Romans 8:33-34 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect? [It is] God that justifieth. Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
As revealed in these passages from Romans, Christ is the only one who has authority to lay charges against God's elect. Only Christ has the authority to condemn them, or rather judge them worthy of punishment. The children of God are judged regularly by Christ. This is the only judgement that the children of God will ever face, as taught in 1 Corinthians 11:32, "But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world."
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